An Edgemont resident wants District of North Vancouver to create a new light abatement bylaw that would stop people from installing bright exterior lights on their homes.
Elizabeth Mclenehan says she has been trying for the last three years to get DNV staff to create bylaw that prevents excessive light pollution. She says she has suffered from excessive lighting on the neighbour’s house so bright that she couldn’t sleep despite installing curtains.
“We have spent thousands of dollars trying to limit the light trespass on our property and from intruding into our home through planting of vegetation screens, installation of blackout blinds and so on,” she says.
“I have experienced sleeplessness, fatigue, anxiety and as a consequence had two falls last year that resulted in a torn rotator cuff injury. At present, light problems are very poorly dealt with under the Nuisance bylaw and even then District bylaw staff and planning have not been able to address our problem,” she says.
The Edgemont resident first approached DNV staff in 2016 when, she claims, a neighbour installed not only about 70 exterior soffit and other outdoor lighting fixtures but also a water feature with a strobe light that shone off the back of the house at night. After several months of consultation with the district, the coloured light feature was turned off.
Then another neighbour, she says, also installed several soffit, deck and exterior light fixtures as well as in-ground landscaping lights. The house was sold but the light pollution only worsened as the new neighbours moved in and left the lights on 24/7, she says.
“We made numerous efforts both in person and through emails to kindly request they turn the lights off at night, if nothing else along our side as the light intruded into our bedroom and floodlit our entire property. Ultimately it proved to be fruitless,” she says.
Mclenehan also wrote to provincial agencies, including the Ministry of Municipal Affairs and Housing which said that it was up to the local government to limit light pollution. “This was contrary to what the District kept telling us with regard to limiting exterior soffit lights, etc. They continued to claim that they could do nothing about this issue as it fell within the BC Building Code regulations.”
She recently addressed the council and is since waiting to hear back on the bylaw. “Meanwhile, we are anticipating the Halloween and Christmas season with dread because of the extremely bright lights and other decorations,” she says.
While the district doesn’t have a specific light abatement bylaw, outdoor lighting is covered by the Nuisance Abatement Bylaw that includes some restrictions on outdoor lighting. Mclenehan says at the time the bylaw was written 16 years ago, most homes used a garage light, or a porch light or perhaps a few security lights.
In the last few years, however, the Edgemont neighbourhood has seen bigger homes and with them have come bright, decorative exterior lighting. “The majority of these are purely architectural or rather designer elements, serving no other purpose but to broadly illuminate the house. These lights are creating major intrusions onto neighbouring properties in the form or light pooling, light trespass and light pollution.”
She would like DNV to follow Vancouver’s suit which recently upgraded a bylaw to ban any outdoor fixtures that cast light directly into a neighbour’s window or unreasonably disturb the neighbour.
Would be worthwhile to check what is being done with regard to light pollution in other locations in Canada or around the world. Noise pollution is being looked after and there is really no difference as both affect our senses equally.
Hello,
unfortunatelly, we sometimes experience a similar disturbance since neighbor’s house was sold to the people of different culture and living style. Communication with them is not easy due to a language difficulties. Year ago they made fireplace on the yard and used it with a gusto!
Vladimir
Hello,
unfortunatelly, we sometimes experience a similar disturbance since neighbor’s house was sold to the people of different culture and living style. Communication with them is not easy due to a language difficulties. Year ago they made fireplace on the yard and used it with a gusto!
Vladimir
Note… this is my first comment
Excessive outdoor lighting has become a problem in many areas of our City, it’s
particularly extreme on many of the newly built homes throughout the North Shore.
Edgemont Village And Capilano Highlands is particularly hard hit as there are dozens of
huge, new homes. It’s part of our municipality’s duty to ensure that existing home owners are not severely inconvenienced in this manner. Having paid taxes for decades in our neighbourhoods one would only hope our representatives in City Hall speak up on our behalf particularly in view of “Saving our Environment” wasting energy in this manner is just NOT acceptable as it’s completely unnecessary.
I feel for you! People can be so incredibly ignorant, selfish, and inconsiderate, if not innocently oblivious to how their actions affect their neighbours.
The problems in North Vancouver is a trickle-down effect. I think your new mayor and her attitude is the main problem. She seems more interested in appeasing big real estate developers (who donated to her election campaign) and future residents than addressing existing residents’ issues. Apart from that…
West Vancouver has the Good Neighbour Bylaw which addresses light pollution from neighbours’ exterior lighting, but not from any public lighting. You can download a copy of it from westvancouver.ca. Check the wording. The West Vancouver Bylaw Department does actually enforce this bylaw, and in an extremely diplomatic manner. I, myself, have firsthand experience of this! Perhaps North Vancouver Bylaw Department doesn’t have the diplomacy or isn’t as willing to stick up for residents and enforce their bylaws re nuisance lighting as the West Vancouver Bylaw Department.
One way you can effect a bylaw change or creation is to gather bylaws (as suggested by another commenter here) from all over North America that pertain to light pollution. Then write letters to NV City Hall’s CAO (Chief Administrative Officer), the person responsible for decision-making, legal issues, and finances. Attach copies of these bylaws and state something to the effect that North Vancouver is backwards and unenlightened in its viewpoint on light pollution, and that you have the evidence from more environmentally enlightened municipal governments. This approach worked for me to get a local noise bylaw changed to address “boom cars,” but it took a great many long, long, long well-written letters. One day, I got a phone call from the CAO, who asked me to come to city hall for a meeting. Now we have a bylaw that addresses ultra-bass stereos in “boom cars”! Don’t give up. Maybe change your approach. And don’t spend any more money on it! Rally the troops (your neighbours) via a petition. Ask those in power why your bylaw department doesn’t enforce its bylaws. You can succeed.
One word of advice… whining doesn’t work. Make your case in a professional manner. It’s all about the environment and the greater good. Birds are confused by light pollution, the negative aspects of sleep deprivation (which has been used as a form of torture throughout history, incidentally), etc., etc., etc..
Check out darksky.org for more information, how to make a better argument, and how to get your municipal government to care and be involved.
Good luck!
These sections of District of North Vancouver bylaw 7325 apply:
7. Every person who is the owner or occupier of Real Property or their agent shall prevent and abate nuisances on that property.
8. Without limiting the generality of section 7, every person who is the owner or occupier of Real Property or their agent shall . . .
(e) ensure that an Outdoor Light on the Property is shielded by a Shade or fixture such that the Light Source is not visible from another parcel located in a Residential Zone.
It cannot be seriously suggested that the owners of the house which is so brightly lit are not in breach of the bylaw. I fail to understand why the District declines to take steps to deal with an obvious breach of a clearly worded bylaw.
The other line of attack would be for the victim of this invasive lighting to apply to court for an injunction to compel the owners of the offending property to correct the problem, because it seems pretty clear that they are committing the Common Law tort of nuisance, but it seems wrong to me that she should have to go to that expense and trouble to deal with a problem which is adequately covered by the District’s bylaws.
Dumbfu**ery. Geeze get a life people!
Try living across the street from a 10,000 sq foot house lit up with glaring blue-white LED lights which are on all night from dusk to dawn. Blaring into all my windows. Lights are mounted all under the soffits and to boot the house is screaming white concrete. Looks like a giant prison, all that’s missing is the Alsations.
Indeed, this bylaw exists, but is it practical ?
Every house has got some lights ( porch, access , driveway, etc ) which for practical purposes are on and are visible from other houses. This bylaw needs rewriting or is unenforceable. Should be more descriptive and include lighting magnitude just like the noise bylaw.
I have the same problem with a new house next door, I live up by skyline right below the green belt and they have around 40-50 blinding bright lights to illuminate their hideous new house. It is terrible. They also have dozens of exterior landscaping lights pointed up the trees which literally lights up 3 lots, one being ours.. It is so shocking to me that people can be so rude and inconsiderate. The dnv definitely needs to do something to stop this out of control light pollution. They are so bright I’m they can be seen from space amd I’m sure must have an effect on wildlife aswell.
It’s well pass time to deal with the invasive soffit lights with an amended bylaw. The new McMansion that was built behind us is also light up. It’s a big white box. It is ruining our view from our deck and it illuminates our bedroom. We are losing sleep and are stressed out by our passive aggressive neighbor. He refuses to turn them off.